Talk:Racial Origins

Over at Talk:Drow Kirranos sort-of pointed out that we need a creation story for the various races.

/u/SlamminSamr penned the following in the Creation thread:


 * Into the Hearth, the gods poured their own blood, creating mortals. As each god poured his or her blood upon the ground, the form of the mortal that rose was different. The earth god's people became the dwarves, while the wind-god's people became the elves.

An issue with this is that we don't have a wind-god at the moment. And it doesn't give us an origin for humans and halflings and orcs.

Over at Talk:Drow I tossed out a few ideas for where the Drow came from that seem to be at odds with /u/Bhangbhangduc's idea of a more "neutral Lolth" theme near the bottom here.

Kirranos commented on one of my Drow ideas, "..if there are multiple others that are evolutions of one race (Dwarves, gnomes, etc.) then I really like the drow being evolved from the elves. Perhaps while trapped underground (I penned that they were buried when Redian fell.) they grew to hate their former brethren who get to live under the sun and started to shun them and the aboveground in general?"

This compiles much of what has been tossed around about the core races. Thoughts, comments, ideas? Where did all these races come from? One race per god? One master race that evolved? A few master races that evolved? InternetSage (talk) 14:25, February 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I do like the gods playing a part in the origin of the races (they are the gods after all.) The elves could have been created by Life, the dwarves by Earth, the humans by Flame or Sky (Being the most neutral race and the one that tends to most affect the world around them), and we can pick an aquatic race to be prevelant and created by Sea? We can decide on a race for Flame/Sky, whichever humans were not created by, or they could have abstained from created a race, being focused on something else? Other races could have evolved from these main ones. These are just my ideas of course, anyone else have some good ones?


 * Kirranos (talk) 15:31, February 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Someone had an idea on Reddit that all peoples were once one, and were split into different races at The Falling. I thought that was cool.


 * Or, Kirranos, what if all the races come from Life, but were manifestations of different Inner Ring gods. Humans could be Change, Dwarves are Stasis, Elves are Mystery, Halflings are Wonder, and Orcs could be Power.


 * Yoshanuikabundi (talk) 03:19, February 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I like that idea. Life began creating races, and the others, unable to create life, lay claim to the various races by giving them aspects of themselves. That would mean we need 9 races for the 9 gods who aren't Life. They could all have been there from the start, or some of the gods could have taken The Falling as the time to claim their own, as Life sought to fix some of the damage wrought by the others. InternetSage (talk) 03:28, February 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I like this idea, although I don't agree we necessarily need 9 races. Perhaps the outer ring created the world: Earth, Flame, and Sea created the landscape, Sky created the atmosphere, and Life created life, and then the inner ring left their mark upon what was already created? We could have 5 main races then, one created by each of the inner ring gods as Yoshanuikabundi suggested.


 * Kirranos (talk) 14:22, February 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm on board with this. I was honestly a bit worried about having to pick 9 major races. 5 would be a lot easier. InternetSage (talk) 01:48, February 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Although then did Life simply leave a general Life essence about that the inner gods messed with or was there one orginal Life race?
 * Kirranos (talk) 04:29, February 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps life created plants and animals, and the inner gods created intelligent life? Yoshanuikabundi (talk) 05:21, February 18, 2013 (UTC)